SocraticGadfly: We may be at a final farewell for me and Firefox

June 23, 2025

We may be at a final farewell for me and Firefox

I have long used Firefox as my primary internet browser. It was pretty much the original non-corporatized browser. Today, for PCs, it's definitely "do evil" Chrome by Google, or else Edge by "do evil and also make crap" Microslob.

On Macs, which is what I am normally on, it's those or Apple's own "do a fair degree of evil and turd-polish yourself" Safari.

There are other older browsers, of course, like Opera, and newer ones like Brave.

But, I have generally stayed with Firefox.

Until it has problems from time to time.

Like being a memory hog.

Or slow.

Or now, busting stuff.

A week ago, on my office Mac, I got prompted to update Firefox. Not a problem.

Until the restart, then yes a problem.

Substack is broken.

And, it's worse in various ways.

I commented on Shitter, from the office, tagging both Firefox and parent Mozilla. No response.

I then went to Mozilla's website, to the bug-reporting page.

You can do it anonymously, or through GitHub. No account with it, and don't want to bother. But, the fact that they don't even ask for an email is problematic.

Even more problematic for them as a tech company?

They asked if the problem was on Mac OS X 10.15. (That's the way they wrote it, redundancy and all.)

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm on Ventura, specifically 13.5, at the office. (I get prompts to update to 14, but I hesitate to play with electronics not my own.)

Anyway, I am NOT NOT NOT on Catalina!

And, if you're getting that wrong, how fucked up are you?

Anyway, at home, I thought I would go on Facebook.

Nope.

Mozilla's account there dead since 2018. Won't even take FB messages.

Firefox's semi-dead since 2022. Takes FB messages, as far as still having a "post" feature, but no response.

Speaking of messages? 

Went back to Shitter.

Thought I would DM them there, rather than tag them.

Nope. Both Mozilla and Firefox have Shitter messaging turned off.

So, at least at work, if I ditch FF, it is likely permanent this time. 

So, I looked up alternatives to FF at home.

LibreWolf got high remarks. The worry is about it being such a tight fork off FF that it might break Substack, too.

Anyway, I downloaded it at home.

Problem?

Wouldn't import a thing from FF. Didn't even show it as "available," only Chrome and Safari. 

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There's other reasons NOT to like FF 139. If you're a FF user do NOT NOT NOT update to this.

One issue is that it has an AI chatbot option that's embedded in a narrow left-hand rail. The fact that that's the top icon on the rail shows that FuckFox is trying to shove this down our throats. 

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