SocraticGadfly: fair trade
Showing posts with label fair trade. Show all posts
Showing posts with label fair trade. Show all posts

April 16, 2025

The real reason Trump's tariffs won't work

And that is, contra his Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, yes, buying a bunch of cheap shit IS, or has become, the American way of life.

It started becoming that 40-plus years ago, when Saint Ronald of Reagan first really signed off on not battling protectionism abroad. That said, the first big wave of modern imports was partially Merikkka shooting itself in the foot. At the time of the two oil crises of the 1970s, American small cards were crap. That was halfway acceptable at the time of the 1973-74 oil crisis and Arab partial embargo; at the time of 1979 and Iran, it absolutely was not.

So, Japan kicked American butts. This was primarily due to Big Three intransigence, but UAW workers were about as much at fault.

Skip backward a bit. 

In some ways, I consider JFK the first neoliberal president, not using that totally vaguely, but seriously and at least somewhat narrowly. If not him, it's definitely Jimmy Carter and I've written about that before.

Ronnie? Not really a neolib; nor Poppy Bush.

The Slickster? Absolutely. If James Earl wasn't full blown as a neoliberal, William Jefferson Clinton surely was. Rhodes Scholarship learning and all.

Remember, it was the Slickster who first touted how "engagement" with China would lead to political liberalization. Not!

Beyond that, at least as much as Carter, Clinton and unions weren't always on the same page. It was honestly, under Clinton, that Democrats first started looking really at the "knowledge class" as a basis for politics.

From there, everybody but Trump has been a neoliberal.

OK, along with that?

It's been 17 years since the last minimum wage hike. And, despite my pleas on these pages, Democrats did NOT attach a COLA provision to that last minimum wage hike. That means, contra Bessent, many Merikkkans can't afford to buy more than cheap shit. That's even as the vulture capitalists riding herd on stocks of retailers don't want it any other way.

Second, despite fishing for union support, and some unions dumb enough to give it to him, Trump cares about unions even less than national-level Democrats. He's fine with trashing out the NLRB. And OSHA and workplace safety. Etc., etc.

Safe American factories paying decent wages of course can't compete with China. And, Trump is not about to dish out a COVID-type stimulus specifically targeting lower-income workers to buy items from American factories, even if he did back an increased minimum wage that would slowly kick in.

Trump's tariffs address one symptom of a far bigger problem that he has even less desire of fixing than do Democrats.

Or alleged Trump librul nutters like Batya Ungar Sargon want to admit:

That's in addition to her Zionist and other stupidities, of course.

This is like Ernst Röhm claiming to be a Nazi lefty the day before the Night of the Long Knives.

April 11, 2025

No, Trump didn't "cave" on tariffs — and Xi won't either

To update what I posted on Substack yesterday? (Where we know Trump's list of 50 or 75 or 247 countries that want to talk turkey is a lie?)

Trump did not remove his pre-April tariffs in general.

And, he didn't remove ANY of his tariffs on China.

And, he made clear Thursday morning that the tariff rate on China is now at 145 percent. China, as of yesterday, had fired back up to 84 percent plus blacklisting a number of US companies. And today, Friday? It's gone up to 125 percent. And now, Vietnam is trying to cordon itself off from China. Still won't help the American shoe industry as Vietnam got socked with its own tariffs, though that's among those that have been suspended, for now.

It's why the Dow went back in the tank yesterday morning.

Ergo, contra Mark Ames, who claimed on Shitter Wednesday evening that Trump got rolled, no such thing has happened. Wishing that Schopenhauer's "The World as Will and Idea" were true, as I noted over there with Trump (and Hitler and Stalin) t'aint so means it's not so for Ames, or others thinking along this line.

Add in the fact that House GOP wingnuts squared caved to Trump yesterday only underscores this

The likes of Ames should know better on this, too.

Besides, according to his own staff, if he was "semi-rolled," it was the bond market, not the stock market. 

Friday's stock market whipsawed, but many experts said, don't get in if you don't have to.

It will plunge again as Trump'x belief that Chinese president Xi Jinping needs to cave to him by picking up the phone ain't happening. Here's that Dum Fuq saying that "You are proud, but you need to be less proud than me," to read between the lines.

“China wants to make a deal. They just don’t know how quite to go about it,” Trump said on Wednesday during an event at the White House. “You know, it’s one of those things they don’t know quite – They’re proud people.”

To quote Poppy Bush?

Not.Gonna.Happen.

June 26, 2019

More neoliberal MSM-blog stupid Trump bashing
on international postal rates and Chinese cheap costs

File this one from Talking Points Memo, and the link within TPM from Vox, as with many, under "the neoliberal mainstream media not getting it." Burying the lede about Trump having legitimate beefs with the Universal Postal Union as backdoor vote suppression (TPM) is just stupid. Vox burying the lede on UPU member listing is almost as bad.

I mean, the Paris climate change accord essentially moved China out of "developing nation" to "semi-developed nation status. Why can't the UPU do the same? The analysis of Vox is all wet otherwise, unless Trump expands this to a mail trade war beyond China. And, Jen Kirby, the steno there, does give up the game when she says that "experts tell me ... a better deal ... is the most likely scenario."

If the concern really is about overseas voters, as in TPM, Bill Daniels over at Kuff (where I first saw this) has the easy solution. You bring them to an embassy or consulate, or mail them there, in China or whatever foreign country you the voter live, and they go to America by diplomatic pouch. That, in turn would address states' concerns about mail time stamps, as well.

Otherwise, effect-wise, this isn't that much different from a carbon tariff, which I highly support (and which would require a carbon tax first). And, otherwise, this strikes me overall as more #TheResistance stupidity.

As far as what an agreement would do in the big picture?

Not much. If this makes the made-in-China crap too expensive to be made in China then shipped to the USofA, those jobs won't come here. They'll move to places like Vietnam.

Actually, if we're lucky, and not wishing people out of work, but ...

If we're lucky, some of those jobs will disappear, and more importantly, the made-in-China crap created in those jobs will simply disappear.

Americans don't need this cheap crap. Dollar stores don't need to sell it.

We need to de-capitalize away from some of this stuff.

That's especially true because a lot of this is made with oil-derived plastics. (Not that Trump is thinking about climate change and environmental degradation.)

June 09, 2019

Trump's tariff trip-ups (newly updated)

President Donald Trump continues to shoot himself in the foot in his tariff war with China, and the Trump Train riders continue to sign blank checks, doubling down on motivated reasoning and going beyond cognitive dissonance. (That happens when you simply refuse to read news or otherwise ingest information you know will challenge your POV.)

After his announcement of his newest round of tariffs against Beijing, it has responded with its own plans for new tariffs starting June 1.

Update, June 1: Trump, never smart enough to accept a half-loaf on anything when he thinks he can get a full loaf on one of two issues — tariffs and immigration — has given real tariff new stupidity news with his 5 percent until you stop the migration threat to Mexico That's just after he cut some Mexican, and Canadian, tariffs to try to get the Senate to pass NAFTA 2.0, aka USMCA.

Update, June 4: And now, the Senate GOP is reportedly considering a formal vote of disapproval against these tariffs. Trump fired back that these tariffs are distinct from NAFTA 2.0.

Update, June 8: After announcing those planned new tariffs against Mexico, he has now removed those again, while lying that they forced Mexico to act. Most of the agreement announced Saturday was negotiated months ago and most of the add-ons Trump tried to get this last week were rejected. And the whole drama was created by the drama queen himself. And much of the GOP Washington establishment has refined the old IOKIYAR acronym to now read IOKIYAT.

Update, June 9: Trump is now an officially bigger idiot than ever, and wrecking the work to present an actually good case against free trade, when he says he still could impose new, "profitable" tariffs on Mexico. Tariffs are NOT — and not designed to be — "profitable." And, Trump is now also busted lying that Mexico had agreed to more U.S. ag imports. Anybody who knows what NAFTA did to the Mexican farm industry would know prima facie that was likely a lie.

Update, June 10: Never Trumper Rethugs are also pointing out Mexico "pantsed" Trump, and yes, that's in the headline. Bloomberg points out how these failures (and getting called out on them) may make Trump more dangerous.

Update, June 27: Xi just gave Trump a "go fuck yourself" laundry list of things he needs to do before he'll play ball with him.

Read on for how this relates to Trump having at least some good ideas, but incredibly stupid execution, vis-a-vis China.

Before I go into the weeds of Trump's stupidity here, a couple of caveats.

First, I'm not a member of either "duopoly" party.

Second, I'm not a free-trader, but I'm not an anti-free trader either. Per the likes of Adam Smith and other classical economists, I support free trade between countries that are on a relatively equal basis (and with the additional caveat of transparency needed in that trade).

That means countries that have roughly equal labor rights, environmental protections, intellectual property and copyright protections, etc.

In other words, free trade with Canada or the EU? Bring it on. Ditto with Japan.

In all of these countries, there might be some details to worry over, but ... the basic idea holds. Bring it on. Ditto with the new "tigers" of SE Asia, once they reached this level. For instance, free trade 25 years ago with South Korea or Taiwan? No. Today. If we think they're at "that level," bring it on.

And, of course, China is not at that level. Despite talk of it greening up, it has horrible pollution problems, and not just the smog of air pollution. Plus, we've imported our pollution over there, with dirty Chinese industries then redoubling it. China has little labor rights, etc., and little intellectual property protection — as they steal everything, how could they respect intellectual property. (Well, they don't steal all of it; in many cases, Western companies agree to surrender it in exchange for Chinese manufacturing entry.)

NOW we can get to Trump's problems.

First, anything with EU or Canadian steel was nothing other than a rounding error and we did worse. The tariffs on Canadian paper were a bailout request by a hedge fund company and ignore the way the US allows below-cost timbering in national forests. Other EU tariff issues generally fall into the same category.

And, while Mexico isn't on the same level as the US, it may be ahead of China's level, plus is not the same economic threat.

So ... IF Trump hadn't been so stupid to do these other tariffs, he might well have had allies.

The EU is the third heavyweight in global trade. (Japan is a distant fourth, and has no real regional allies in SE Asia beyond following the US lead — or such was the pre-Trump case.)

The EU, like the US, has had ongoing concerns about intellectual property as well as manufacturing issues with China.

But, no. Donald Duck had to go piss the EU off first.

That said, this leads to problem No. 2.

For Trump, trade is and remains all about traditional industrial manufacturing.

For a man who allegedly created alleged wealth in the FIRE sector, not manufacturing, his blindspot to trade in services — including but not limited to intellectual property — is baffling even by Trump's standards of inducing bafflement.

If his tariffs — and related actions — were broader than they actually are, he might get more US support. But, they're not.

Third is Trump's wishful thinking misreading of China.

It's a different wishful thinking than that of the majority of establishment R's and D's, that "engagement" would get China to liberalize its society politically. But it's wishful thinking of its own, and just as dangerous.

In his warning to China after it announced its latest countertariffs, he seems to think that he can bully a country with a long, long, proud history, that's entering a resurgence to get to near where China's economic status was on the global stage for the majority of the period 0-1600 CE.

Beyond that, the likes of Chinese President Xi Jinping laugh up their sleeves at Trump. All bark, no bite.  And, his personalizing this surely makes the Chinese leadership think that he is thin-skinned and feels like he's losing.

Westerners personalizing things with East Asians generally backfires, anyway. Based on a visit to South Vietnam when he was Veep, LBJ seemed to have personalized the Vietnam War as him against Uncle Ho. And we know how that ended.

Also, as I noted elsewhere, even if "state capitalism" and not communism, and not a "demand economy," China still has a central economic control, and has of course NOT liberalized due to engagement.

That leads to point the fourth. With state capitalism, plus Xi already being guaranteed a post-Deng precedent setting third term, he doesn't have to battle on Trump's terms. And both Western financial media and China-/oriented mass media have already indicated he isn't now and he won't be in the future.

Then there's the issue of Trump bailing out farmers — but not other industries affected by the tariffs. A nail factory that closes in a small town may be small. But, its 50 employees now out of work may be almost as many as the total number of farmers in that county if it's partly exurban and not totally rural.

Politico, in my "personalizing" link, rightly notes that he's got two directly conflicting impulses at play. Wall Street took a bath last Monday when Trump announced the new tariffs then did his usual boastful tweeting.

Politico, though — and the rest of the establishment to the degree Politico represents it — does get one thing wrong, though.

That's the claim that both Trump and Xi are maybe not rational actors.

Au contraire. Xi has not started a single round of tariff battles. He and other Chinese brass HAVE cultivated the EU since Trump started the tariff wars, and pointing at Trump's EU tariffs, have gotten it to stay out of the fray. When Xi has launched countertariffs, they've been on the farm products, and other things like Kentucky bourbon, clearly in red states. And, they've been done with greater flexibility.

No, Xi has been incredibly rational.

I'm not saying Wall Street, or small businesses that aren't farms, are going to jump in to support Bill Weld in the primaries. But, what if a few more people stay at home in November 2020?

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More and more, I see Trump not as an idiot, but in THIS WAY (and ONLY this way, The Resistance, hence all caps) to be like a Hitler or Stalin. He seems to think that his believing something to be so makes it so.

No, he's not the only person in the world who occasionally indulges this, but he has a high capacity for it.

And, speaking of "the resistance," Trump's combination of stupidity and fake news on tariffs does NOT give the pustulence excuses for its own tariffs fake news.

June 03, 2019

The Resistance and tariffs fake news

About two weeks ago, the Donut Twitter corner of The Resistance was lamenting Dress Barn going out of business, and following on the footsteps of Payless Shoes — and some were blaming Trump's tariffs on China.


This is fake news, of course. China is the leading importer of apparel to the US, but with a plurality of less than 30 percent.

It's also callous, and finally, it's blame shifting. Let's tackle all three, as they're interrelated, especially the first two.

Yes, a fair amount of imported clothes and shoes are made in China. But, in most cases, even more is made outside China, in places like Vietnam, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Honduras, Cambodia etc. Specifically, countries 2-7 combined top China. So, Trump's tariffs wars have not driven either store out of business. And, let's take women's, or men's, walking shoes. (Hold on to that order.)

Would you pay $54.99 instead of $49.99 at Payless, rather than $64.99 for American made? Many of you would.

Plus, the first Donut Twitterer I saw claimed this was a war specifically on women. Really? Last time I checked, men wore shoes, too, even if we're not overwhelmed by capitalist fashion brainwashing to buy 15 pairs. That's on you. Men also wear clothing (we hope) last I checked.

Second, all of those countries I listed have poor labor rights. (Not that Trump cares about that. He just hates free or even fair trade. Goods could be made in Canada and especially if they were old-time manufactured objects, he'd still hate them.)

But, Donut Twitter, especially those of you who are political insiders? You haven't cared about labor rights, or pollution safeguards for the 25 years since the Slickster got you to sign off on NAFTA. So, put your hands down again.

Finally, are you really buying stuff at Dress Barn? And I mean you individually.

Maybe you went to the Big Yellow A.

So, blame Jeff Bezos.

Then blame yourself.

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Sadly, without neoliberals of the Resistance doing an ounce of introspection, Trump has given real tariff new stupidity news with his 5 percent until you stop the migration threat. That's just after he cut some Mexican, and Canadian, tariffs to try to get the Senate to pass NAFTA 2.0, aka USMCA.

July 18, 2008

Why I remain ambivalent about voting Green

Basically, it’s because for all the good Green Party positions, there’s plenty of nuttery, which might in part be excusable, but also hypocrisy that can rival the Republican-Democratic duopoly.

The GP platform (PDF) has details of the good, the bad and the ugly.

First, the good?

I definitely agree with withdrawing from Afghanistan with Iraq.

I wholeheartedly support ending the “War on Drugs,” medicalizing marijuana and getting rid of private prisons.

I totally support making sure workers get all possible rights to unionize.

Get rid of permanent vetoes for any U.N. Security Council member? I could be down with that.

Repeal the Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act? Sign me up.

Fair trade? I’ve been decrying liberal squishes for more than a decade.

Civil rights of secularists? Of course; I am one.

But, then comes the nuttery, in a variety of forms, many of them involving some degree of detachment from reality.

For example, you CANNOT be hardcore about chastising the Bush Adminstration for failure to follow up on sound science on global warming and climate change, then turn around and be all woo-hoo, granola and New Agey (pejoratives intended) on wanting even more federal support for alternative medicine than now, alternative medicine that not only has no scientific support, but has plenty of scientific debunking, without being hugely hypocritical.

Nonetheless, the Greens continue to do this.
Health Programs and Medical Treatment
We support the availability of holistic health approaches and, the use of complementary and alternative therapies such as herbal medicines, homeopathy and acupuncture.

No, federal support isn’t technically mentioned in that graf, but as the GP favors a single-payer version of national healthcare, it IS mentioned in the broader context.

Next, the GP looks like it’s been infiltrated by John Birchers:
Chemicals used in the fluoridation of America's public drinking water supplies are toxic waste by-products. The majority of these toxic wastes come from the phosphate fertilizer industry. Fluoride accumulates in the human body through ingestion and inhalation. A growing body of research suggests that fluoride may be associated with arthritis, hip fractures, bone cancer, kidney damage, infertility, and brain disorders. For these reasons, the Green Party opposes the fluoridation of drinking water.

Except now, Big Biz, rather than Godless Commies, are going to kill us with fluoride.

Actual proof? Whole nother story, or non-story.

Then, on nuclear issues, we have this:

The platform calls for phaseout of all nuclear power AND technology, without mentioning nuclear medicine. Oversight, straddle or hypocrisy? I will take either Choice No. 2 or No. 3. Disingeniousness, like hypocrisy, it would appear is not limited to major parties.



At times, the platform has a mix of naivete, willfulness and anti-authoritarianism that isn’t fully connected to reality.

Take, for example, the portion of the platform on homelessness:
Repeal laws that criminalize any facet of homelessness including where they sleep, or that deny citizens the right to help homeless persons.

Re-affirm and enforce laws that open public buildings for the homeless in freezing weather.

Open feeding stations that guarantee two meals/day to homeless people.

First, let’s state some actual facts about the homeless situation.

With some variations between parts of the country, seasons of the year, and economic conditions, sociologists and social workers, psychologists and psychiatrists, criminologists, and last but not least, addiction counselors will tell you that the homeless, like Gauls of Caesar’s day, are divided into three roughly equal parts:

1. The down on their luck;
2. The mentally ill;
3. The addicts.

That’s with some overlap between 2 and 3, and people who are originally in category 1 exacerbating their situation into Category 3.

OK. I’m not down with decriminalizing public drunkenness, which is going to include in some way, public drug intoxication these days. So, scratch GP point 1.

Public buildings? With food, no less? Larger cities have city-run homeless shelters. Even mid-sized cities have the Salvation Army, church missions, etc.

Problem is, many people in Category 2 and all active users in Category 3 don’t want to go into those places. People who are schizophrenic or in the manic phase of bipolar disorder are literally paranoid of them.

And alcoholics or addicts don’t want to quit, which shelters demand.

I don’t know what country some GP members live in; the homeless have at least some degree of safety net, but they have to be willing to use that net on the net’s terms.



I have other disagreements that are lesser-level, but still definite disagreements.

For example, the GP cut out calls for a gas tax hike from this year’s platform. I say keep it in, and use the money to subsidize lower-income people buying more fuel-efficient cars.

And, that said, a call to boost car gas mileage to 60 MPG by 2012 is ridiculous. Even Toyota can’t do that.

And, the claim that water can only be managed at a sustainable level at the local level? Wrong. That can produce water wars.

Hydrogen car? It’s greenwash for carmakers, and the GP is dumb enough to fall for it.

Subpoena power to “neighborhood councils”? Uhh, folks like Posse Comitatus, Republic of Texas, various Freeman groups, etc., would all looovvee that one.



Some things, I just find interesting, like the GP saying education should remain a state-level issue. I think it should be more federalized than it is now.

I also think the GP, along with the ruling duopoly, misses the boat in not calling for a European-length school year.

Hawaiian sovereignty? The past is well in the past.

D.C. statehood? The Constitution provides (both for Greens and Jesse Jackson-type Democrats) for retrocession to Maryland.

February 27, 2008

Obama as well as Clinton schwaffle on ‘fair trade’

Obama has said he wants to look at environmental and labor standards in the Doha round of WTO, but given his background, how much does that really mean?
Obama acknowledged in the debate that in his 2004 Illinois Senate campaign, he said — as he put it now — "NAFTA and other trade deals can be beneficial to the United States." His comments, as reported in 2004, were that NAFTA had brought enormous benefits to his state, but that trade deals needed to be made better for workers. …

In his 2004 Senate campaign, he said the U.S. should pursue more deals such as NAFTA, and argued more broadly that his opponent's call for tariffs would spark a trade war. AP reported then that Obama had spoken of enormous benefits having accrued to his state from NAFTA, while adding that he also called for more aggressive trade protections for U.S. workers.

Well, there you go. Don’t expect anything beyond incremental change.