SocraticGadfly: Robert Horry aka Big Shot Rob? NOT a HOFer

May 15, 2021

Robert Horry aka Big Shot Rob? NOT a HOFer

I don't care if Rudy Tomjanovich called for it tonight.

I don't care if Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon and Kobe Bryant called for it in the past.

I don't care if he won seven rings, as there's at least one Bill Russell era Celtics who did the same, Jungle Jim, Jim Loscutoff.

Robert Horry has less than 70 Win Shares, less than 8,000 points, and playoff luck aside, actually couldn't shoot worth shit with a career FG percentage of under 43 percent. (Because I forgot to originally link him, and I don't know if Basketball-Reference does a recrawl, it may not show up on his page!

That paltry Win Shares was over 15 years, too. Just 7 points a game. Clyde Lovellette, to go to Russell-era Celtics, had more Win Shares in only 10 years.

More of why Horry ain't fit for Springfield?

NEVER an All-Star.

NOT a HOFer.

And, sorry, that's the right level of respect; you don't deserve more.

And Rudy is becoming the Tony La Russa of the NBA, with Horry his Harold Baines, or Jack Morris, if he claims Horry is a HOFer.

In turn, this leads to questions of what's a good cutoff for a HOFer? In MLB, I have long said that for batting first positions, it should be 110 career OPS+. Baines did make that. For fielding-first positions, ranking in the top 20 in major fielding issues, I guess. For pitchers, I have two criteria: 110 career ERA+ (shut up about FIP, it's not as good as some think) AND a WHIP below 1.25. Morris wasn't close. For any position outside catcher and relievers, 60 career WAR a minimum. Outside of SS and maybe 2B, 65 minimum. Preferably your WAA should be half your WAR or more.

On hoops? Looking at Rudy T? His PER of 16 sounds like a reasonable minimum. WS/48 minutes? Let's say .125. 

Finally, Horry was not a regular starter after his fourth year in the league. Know what? Manu wasn't a starter either, and kicks Horry's ass in all of the above.

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