SocraticGadfly: Female pastors, Applebee's and hypocrisy

February 03, 2013

Female pastors, Applebee's and hypocrisy

I didn't realize now that the "pastor" at the center of the Applebee's brouhaha was a woman. It's a shitload of hypocrisy to talk about tithing to god in order to not tip a waitress the Applebee's-suggested 10 percent, while ignoring what Paul, or rather "Paul," says about women and positions of authority and instead becoming a pastor in the first place.

The actual Paul (I don't believe this is a pseudepigraphal addition) says this in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35:
Women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.
He is followed by a pseudo-Paul in 1 Timothy 2:11-12:
A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.
And, that's the bottom line. Period.

So, women pastors, if you're going to try to cite the literality of tithing, or whatever, but ignore the literality of Paul and pseudo-Paul, you're a big fucking hypocrite.

Related to that, since the Revvvvvvvvvvv. (picture Rush Limbaugh voice) Alois Bell then came on St. Louis' Faux News station? You Faux talking heads, especially if you're women yourselves, if you're going to support a woman pastor, if you're going to interview a woman pastor, and yet claim to support religiously conservative values, you're big fucking hypocrites.

And, to be more blunt yet, as I expected when I saw the location of the Applebee's, to imitate Rush again, because it now becomes more appropriate yet in a twisted way, the Revvvvvvvv. Bell is an African-American. And, black churches, especially ones of the storefront variety that claim to be conservatively Christian, are especially bad about having women ministers.

Of course, the link above shows that there's a whole shitload of hypocrisy to go around.

Applebee's, who has violated the privacy of previous guests itself, now gets all apologetic to the "Revvvvvv." Bell.

Applebee's which has had various franchisees talk about making more employees PT in order to avoid Obamacare provisions, is a big fucking hypocrite for not telling the Revvvvvvvvvv. to pay 18 percent for that reason alone.

It's also incredibly stupid, as the link shows.

Back to the main area of hypocrisy, though.

Women pastors at conservative Christian churches pull shit like this all the time, and with a straight face. Too often, liberals will call them out for bad ethics or morals, but not for their religious hypocrisy. And, that needs to happen. Because they are hypocrites. Big fucking hypocrites.

Meanwhile, back to Rush. Will he and his ilk defend a black woman for the sake of defending a big business against a black man, our president? That pilodinal cyst has to be squirming in his chair, at the idea of defending a black woman to defend big biz.

And, beyond the biblical hypocrisy, I think a lot of these low-rent independent black (or Hispanic) churches are about as predatory, especially when they preach a lot of "success gospel," as are the Applebee's of the world. And, speaking of predatory practices, we know a lot of the banksters, at local offices, deliberately approached pastors, both male and female, of churches like this to get them to peddle subprime mortgage crap to their members, with nice "tip money" (heh, heh) for so doing.

That "I tithe" comment on the receipt?  The Revvvvvvvv. Bell needs her members to keep putting their Rolexes, or WalMart knockoffs, credit cards, etc., in the offering plate to tithe.

If you're a woman pastor at a liberal Protestant church, I won't ding you for hypocrisy. You had still better watch out what you claim is literally true in the bible, though; I'll ding you on standard atheist grounds.

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