Flowers has responded to a call-out on Twitter over the latest revelations, and I have responded.
https://t.co/ws59vqrUAg
— Dr. Margaret Flowers (@DrMFlowers) February 6, 2021
"While we recognize that there are aspects of PRC policy in Xinjiang to critique, these critiques should be debated and resolved on Chinese terms and in Chinese dialogues, and not be used as crude ammunition in the U.S.-led geopolitical assault on China."
My first response in a two-parter:
There are plenty of people not part of the *bipartisan foreign policy establishment* who do NOT use the Chinese policy toward Xinjiang as "as crude ammunition in the U.S.-led geopolitical assault on China." That includes leftists like me. This isn't "zero-sum." (sigh)
— Your Glenn Greenwald pouty tomato face 🚩🌻 (@AFCC_Esq) February 6, 2021
And my second.
And, since this is not a zero sum game, I can avoid drinking Xi Jinping Thought Kool-Aid AND avoid drinking US bipartisan foreign policy establishment Kool-Aid. I don't have to discuss Xinjiang and Uyghurs on "Chinese terms," Dr. Margaret Flowers.
— Your Glenn Greenwald pouty tomato face 🚩🌻 (@AFCC_Esq) February 7, 2021
Flowers didn't want to stop digging, and offered this:
What's your point then? My sources are people who have been there and know the situation. https://t.co/QoYkEZONQT
— Dr. Margaret Flowers (@DrMFlowers) February 7, 2021
To which I offered the first of a three part thread response:
Well, the leaks of data came from people who "have been there." Patrick Cockburn is among those in Merika who doesn't totally buy the two-siderism angle, either. And, the ICIJ, which includes many non-American journos, has written about it., too.
— Your Glenn Greenwald pouty tomato face 🚩🌻 (@AFCC_Esq) February 7, 2021
AND? The Uyghurs ARE THERE! 1/x
The "Uyghurs were there" response should nail it.
If it doesn't? Since the Stalinist USSR, or before that, Russian Potemkin villages, authoritarian and totalitarian governments that have wanted to deceive those who are ready to be hoodwinked have easily done so.
And, if that's not enough, via the app Clubhouse, which recently briefly broke through the "great firewall of China," I can now tell Flowers the petards are also hoisting on her "Chinese terms" in another way. Diaspora Chinese, and also Taiwanese Chinese, told mainland Chinese that they needed to learn some things about Xinjiang.
What's a mix of funny, sad, ironic and hypocritical is that Flowers, one of the leaders of a third party, is engaging in two-siderism.
(Update, March 12, 2021: I suppose we should discuss freedom of the press in "Chinese terms" as well, if we're going to be all bent over backward?)
What's also a mix of funny, sad, ironic and hypocritical? Flowers' saying we should let Xi Jinping Thought go unchallenged is exactly the type of argument that could be used by the U.S. bipartisan foreign policy establishment.
It's also not the first time Flowers (and partner Kevin Zeese, when still alive) have peddled the Xi Jinping Thought Kool-Aid.
Back to Max.