tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post896027538690531662..comments2024-03-13T13:29:33.800-05:00Comments on SocraticGadfly: 2012 MLB HOF ballot: Anybody deserving?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-67437132009710015032011-12-02T21:01:07.869-06:002011-12-02T21:01:07.869-06:00Also, I'm not fond of closers. You'll note...Also, I'm not fond of closers. You'll note Lee Smith is also on the ballot and I also didn't suggest him to get in the Hall of Fame. Rivera? Will be different. But, don't even think about comparing him and Martinez.<br /><br />Next, if by "hos" you mean HRs, no, Martinez actually didn't hit that many. He was a doubles hitter with a high OBP.<br /><br />Third, there's not much diff between Edgar and John Olerud. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/o/olerujo01.shtml<br /><br />Fourth, I'm not a "homer." As a Cards fan, I say repeatedly that, if Big Mac hadn't used roids but that the rest of his career numbers (which he wouldn't), I lean away from putting him in the Hall, too.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-1035095909948767022011-12-02T20:52:22.957-06:002011-12-02T20:52:22.957-06:00.933 is not that big of a deal for someone who doe....933 is not that big of a deal for someone who doesn't have to field, and who despite that, had a relatively short career. HOF voters obviously agree, and, as shown by Blyleven's induction, they're not dummies any more around modern stats.<br /><br />And, he's only 70th in career WAR among batters despite the luxury of not playing a fielding position.<br /><br />Hall of the Very Good? Sure. HOF? No.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-90884398253638369182011-12-02T12:08:50.630-06:002011-12-02T12:08:50.630-06:00Thanks for the dumb comments about Edgar Martinez....Thanks for the dumb comments about Edgar Martinez....clearly you don't know much about SABR stats, but a .933 OPS in nearly 9000 ABs is an amazing number. He is 100th in career WAR, without getting much defensive credit (or penalty, granted) and 64th in career offensive WAR. Those numbers put him among the elite of baseball.<br /><br />Also, if DH is such a luxury to play, why hasn't there been dozens of similar DH type numbers? No DH since Martinez has produced anything similar to his numbers over a 12 year span. your suggestion is he hit because hos playing DH, yet nobody can seem to replicate the same performance.<br /><br />if you don't like DHs, just say so, but then you should also hate closers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com