tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post6605870064516886020..comments2024-03-13T13:29:33.800-05:00Comments on SocraticGadfly: Draw a Gnu Atheist DayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-31483470258926472562011-06-08T10:23:31.611-05:002011-06-08T10:23:31.611-05:00Martin, *I* don't feel that way about art. How...Martin, *I* don't feel that way about art. However, in the Draw Muhammad Day, I have the distinct impression that many Gnu Atheists *do* feel that way.<br /><br />That is another reason I'm skewering the idea.<br /><br />Also, just as PZ Myers et al lump members of the semi-unitarian United Church of Christ with the fundamentalist Church of Christ, so do they, with "Draw Muhammad Day," lump Salafaist fundamentalists with peaceful Sufi mystics.<br /><br />Yet another reason for skewering the idea.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-54987629693996597602011-06-08T02:22:52.681-05:002011-06-08T02:22:52.681-05:00No idea if you are right about the motives of Gnu-...No idea if you are right about the motives of Gnu-Atheists, but you are definitely wrong about the nature of art. A piece of art is not a turd which you fling at people you don't like. However, you have correctly hinted that it can be a vehicle for expressing otherwise hidden homo-erotic fantasies, or any other difficult or interesting idea you may wish to encapsulate. Think of art more as something which people are drawn to. If no one wants to look at your art, you haven't acheived diddly squat. So a real acheivement would be to create a piece about your chosen Prophet which lives upon its own merits. <br /><br />There is a real benefit in disabusing Islamists from the notion that they can spread their ideas through violence. Fair enough if this doesn't interest you and you have some other target. Disabuse yourself of the notion that good ideas are spread by weaponry and, who knows, you might even create something worth looking at.Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08240399669150057121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-22057469106209772002011-05-21T13:15:21.948-05:002011-05-21T13:15:21.948-05:00Aquaria .... Draw Muhammad Day is like using a sho...Aquaria .... Draw Muhammad Day is like using a shotgun instead of a rifle. Of course, for PZ, Jerry, et al, all versions of and adherents Xianity get lumped together as quasi-fundy, so, all versions of Islam and adherents to it similarly get lumped together.<br /><br />On my Draw Muhammad Day post, I stress the point "cui bono." Who benefits? And, no, really, nobody benefits ... not free speech, not moderate Muslims, not atheism.<br /><br />That said, given that PZ himself has said he wants to form "cadres" (in his post about the Mooney-Lindsey interview) it doesn't surprise me that he's not about being smart himself, but rather ...<br /><br /><b>confrontational for confrontation's sake.</b><br /><br />True that Gnus didn't start Draw Muhammad, but in general, they have no problem, IMO, with ignoring the "cui bono" question.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-61551937872213984312011-05-21T13:09:53.241-05:002011-05-21T13:09:53.241-05:00What's the point?
I take it you're wantin...What's the point?<br /><br />I take it you're wanting to do this because PZ and Coyne have issued death threats to people who draw pictures of Darwin or Richard Dawkins, and urged others to do the same. They've tried to kill people over something so stupid.<br /><br />Oh wait. They haven't done any of that.<br /><br />The Draw Mohammed Day--which didn't even start with PZ or Coyne or the rest--is not about giving offense. It's about protesting the deluded insanity of wanting to kill people for drawing a damned picture.<br /><br />Draw your silly picture if you like. PZ and Coyne won't care, which makes whatever silly point you're trying to make moot. It won't even be funny, because it's just so pointless it's pathetic.<br /><br />From your comments at Brayton's place, I thought you were smarter than that.Aquariahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07578444793424041263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-88976697951022113682011-05-19T01:35:32.252-05:002011-05-19T01:35:32.252-05:00Oh, William, I could think of something maddening...Oh, William, I could think of something maddening enough, I'm sure.<br /><br />If Ratzi the Nazi sodomizing PZ weren't it, how about PZ fellating Chris Mooney? AND Jerry Coyne doing the same to Josh Rosenau?Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-80909066621620225522011-05-19T01:07:53.292-05:002011-05-19T01:07:53.292-05:00Turnabout fail. Gnu atheists don't object to b...Turnabout fail. Gnu atheists don't object to being drawn.Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02052684196866992031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-86507866539733313872011-05-13T23:32:59.672-05:002011-05-13T23:32:59.672-05:00Glendon, fire away ... I'll post a link of wha...Glendon, fire away ... I'll post a link of what you do. Maybe the Fourth of July would be a good date.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-72810352427675795432011-05-13T22:56:08.458-05:002011-05-13T22:56:08.458-05:00Hey I'm interested.Hey I'm interested.Glendon Mellowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03582347493421110738noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-32467114157995583662011-05-13T21:09:05.285-05:002011-05-13T21:09:05.285-05:00"Anybody else want in?"
Apparently not...."Anybody else want in?"<br /><br />Apparently not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com