tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post5514213898976063930..comments2024-03-13T13:29:33.800-05:00Comments on SocraticGadfly: #BrianDunning — guilty; and not a "sad day" (updated)Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-74411341112051254612014-08-11T16:28:38.741-05:002014-08-11T16:28:38.741-05:00Two additional thoughts.
I should, to be precise,...Two additional thoughts.<br /><br />I should, to be precise, distinguish Gnu Atheists from Atheism Plusers. My critique of PeeZee Weezy holds even more true, against more gnat-straining, with Plusers and wagons.<br /><br />Second, Emerson's "foolish consistency" thought, or something in that vein, comes to mind.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-1937777931216912962014-08-11T16:25:48.100-05:002014-08-11T16:25:48.100-05:00That said, Sir Nick, between you on this piece and...That said, Sir Nick, between you on this piece and Shane Brady's comments on Dunning's sentencing, I'm getting material for a brand-new blog post. Thanks.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-69086854859704493182014-08-11T16:25:03.396-05:002014-08-11T16:25:03.396-05:00First, did I say that the wagon-circling happened ...First, did I say that the wagon-circling happened on every issue under the Gnu sun? No, I didn't.<br /><br />If you want to be (take your choice):<br />A. Jesuitical<br />B. Pharasaical<br />C. Talmudic<br />D. Secularist gnat-straining<br /><br />On some particular issue to try to "disprove" me, go ahead.<br /><br />Do I read FtB every day?<br /><br />Good effing doorknob, no. I'd rather have a double hernia, followed by an Xn Pentacostal faith healing, a homeopathic surgeon using nanoparticle "suture," and a New Ager offering herbs and positive thinking — <i>all at the same time</i>Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-43074855107800036302014-08-11T15:47:33.063-05:002014-08-11T15:47:33.063-05:00Here's PZ Myers on Sam Harris just last month...Here's PZ Myers on Sam Harris <a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/07/28/apparently-stated-intent-is-magic/" rel="nofollow"> just last month</a>. Kindly point out the wagon-circling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-86886627383709870142014-08-11T15:35:02.208-05:002014-08-11T15:35:02.208-05:00Well you don't appear able to read for compreh...Well you don't appear able to read for comprehension, to judge by your response to my comment. Your claim was that Myers is one of those who "circles the wagons" against criticisms of Gnu atheists - at least, if that wasn't your claim, you expressed yourself extremely poorly. My links show that the claim is utter tosh. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-71631939795048870032014-08-11T13:00:35.577-05:002014-08-11T13:00:35.577-05:00Actually, Nick, I've read multiple books of Ha...Actually, Nick, I've read multiple books of Harris, I've read Gnu Atheist attacks on "movement skepticism," and, on scientific and social issues alike, read PeeZee Weezy on Dawkins. Being doing so for more than half a decade. I know exactly what I'm talking about.<br /><br />All you have to do is click the appropriate blog post tags to see plenty more.<br /><br />Now, whether you like what I say, from my point of knowledge and analysis? That's your business.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-32979223527306959102014-08-11T10:21:27.943-05:002014-08-11T10:21:27.943-05:00"It's the flip side of how a high-profile..."It's the flip side of how a high-profile skeptic will criticize a Sam Harris, but Myers, Jerry Coyne and others will circle the wagons against any Gnu potshots."<br /><br />Maybe you should try reading the people you criticise?<br /><br /><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/08/07/oh-gosh-i-have-cheesed-off-sam-harris/" rel="nofollow">PZ Myers on Sam Harris</a>.<br /><br /><a href="http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/08/10/richard-dawkins-still-doesnt-get-it/comment-page-1/" rel="nofollow">Myers on Richard Dawkins</a>.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-84764911674892523072013-05-14T19:56:37.932-05:002013-05-14T19:56:37.932-05:00And now, I get to comment on all of Paul's pos...And now, I get to comment on all of Paul's posts under moderation, before deciding whether to post them or not.<br /><br />On the first such post:<br /><br />My deleting your comments, and putting this post on moderation, have nothing to do with intellectual dishonesty. Stop smoking crack and flattering yourself too much. Rather, it's about not wasting more time, tho I'm doing a bit of that now.<br /><br />Second, read a dictionary. It's not censorship, as I'm not a government entity. <br /><br />And, obviously you know bupkis if you think I'm a teenager.<br /><br />===<br /><br />On the second post. Not even worth commenting.<br /><br />===<br /><br />On the third post? Post the link to whatever actual blog post I commented on where you claim I was refuted, and also, try to actually defend Dunning ripping off other eBay affiliates (which he was doing even if he claims he wasn't guilty of wire fraud), and I'll post that comment.<br /><br />I've asked you multiple times to post the link to whichever blog you are talking about and you HAVE NOT.<br /><br />Until then, I may be a "fucking putz," but you've got nothing to argue about, and continued trollery won't get posted.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-50451155099014007902013-05-14T18:52:51.681-05:002013-05-14T18:52:51.681-05:00HOLY SHIT it took twelve messages but you finally ...HOLY SHIT it took twelve messages but you finally posted an argument. But... "Defend away"? But I can't post anything you fucking putz! But you knew that... That's why you said it. PaulVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-62724137491146829162013-05-14T16:30:42.854-05:002013-05-14T16:30:42.854-05:00Finally, Paul, let's not forget that Dunning u...Finally, Paul, let's not forget that Dunning ultimately wasn't ripping off eBay but <b>other eBay affiliates.</b> Try defending that.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-43028766411563932972013-05-14T16:24:36.626-05:002013-05-14T16:24:36.626-05:00Oh, and I have changed "moderation" sett...Oh, and I have changed "moderation" settings for this post, so I don't have to worry about deleting any further comments.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-28000305580704501872013-05-14T16:23:25.310-05:002013-05-14T16:23:25.310-05:00I'll allow the creating then deleting the Blog...I'll allow the creating then deleting the Blogger account, even if you "overinterpret" what I said about that.<br /><br />The "dumbass," even, doesn't bother me. I won't waste good snark about "mirrors" on you.<br /><br />The continued refusal to "put up," though? You're a troll. Everything you say to try to justify not "putting up" is trollery.<br /><br />Therefore, I deleted away.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-68586396629151794462013-05-14T15:24:47.184-05:002013-05-14T15:24:47.184-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PaulVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-60824533576341666332013-05-14T14:52:43.500-05:002013-05-14T14:52:43.500-05:00Geez, it gets worse.
First, Paul tries to shuffle...Geez, it gets worse.<br /><br />First, Paul tries to shuffle off the burden of proof. Nope, won't fly.<br /><br />You made the claim about specific exculpatory evidence. If it's not on Dunning's website, but you apparently know that it allegedly exists, then if it actually does exist, you can find some way to get it yourself.<br /><br />Beyond that, Dunning posted no documents, emails or other proof in his original "partial explanation" to support his claim that "eBay knew." And, he still hasn't.<br /><br />Second, you way oversimplify Copernicus vs. Galileo. Copernicus had legitimate reasons for rejecting geocentric theory, even if wedded to epicycles still. So, Copernicus' process wasn't "bollocks."<br /><br />Third, I'm just crushed that I'm compared to Bill Maher.<br /><br />Fourth, as for "many others," many others agree with me about both Dunning and Randi. So, a #fail there, too. (Also a logical #fail, appeal to crowd, so don't lecture me on logic, either.)<br /><br />Fifth, "interesting" that you created a Blogger persona earlier this month and now, for whatever reason, either deleted it or have signed in with some other account. Not so interesting as to waste further time on you.<br /><br />As for deleting posts, I didn't say "when," and I'm not going to now. Nor do I divulge all my blogging plans to trolls in general.<br /><br />And, if you still have a Blogger account, or Wordpress, or whatever, you can always play in your own sandbox.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-20860848125707794272013-05-14T14:35:26.697-05:002013-05-14T14:35:26.697-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PaulVnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-65923751598063021512013-05-14T07:56:14.888-05:002013-05-14T07:56:14.888-05:00Back to my "no links" comment. If Dunnin...Back to my "no links" comment. If Dunning's got such docs from eBay, why aren't they posted on his website? Why don't you then have those links posted?<br /><br />Talk about uncritical belief. Talk about bollocks. Talk about blackened pots making comments.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-34949051829246822162013-05-14T07:52:46.100-05:002013-05-14T07:52:46.100-05:00Actually, I gave a close reading to Dunning's ...Actually, I gave a close reading to Dunning's "original response" two years ago and found it highly "wanting." Since Dunning, unlike Shawn Horgan, has said nothing, nothing, nothing, post-plea, there's nothing for me to read beyond the FBI documents, and others' analysis of them as well as my own.<br /><br />Since Paul didn't have any links to present alternative information, then, there's no other response for me.<br /><br />Other than to say, "See you in the funny pages."Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-28788860586854281502013-05-14T03:42:07.407-05:002013-05-14T03:42:07.407-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PaulVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816274115934567464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-48532523011700821572013-05-14T03:41:31.096-05:002013-05-14T03:41:31.096-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.PaulVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15816274115934567464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-15757160511905880622013-05-08T11:24:53.505-05:002013-05-08T11:24:53.505-05:00You may be right. That said, some ppl, whether Lib...You may be right. That said, some ppl, whether Libertarian, GOP, Democrat, Green, whatever, separate politics from other aspects of life more than others do.Gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13075757287807731373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7532871.post-30091336579105428322013-05-08T11:19:49.334-05:002013-05-08T11:19:49.334-05:00Nice Blog, good to see multiple views on the topic...Nice Blog, good to see multiple views on the topic. I am no libritarian (though I have the social leanings of one and I like Ayn Rand books [see superheros])but I doubt that it had much to do with his illegal dealings other than making himself feel better about it. Anyway, I won't pile on him, he did it apparently, there are worst things and he is human but it is a good idea to check out our heroes and be skeptical. Didgyanoreply@blogger.com